An apology from the scumbag, at long, long last.

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Can you smell anything?

C**t

And I don't use that word lightly. Just a horrible, horrible man.

The insidious individual has been backed into a corner, with nowhere left to run after yesterdays Commons statement.
Trying to excuse himself by blaming it on misinformation 23 years ago.

To be fair to [iCall Me Dave,[/i he showed his humble, human side when delivering the findings of the independent enquiry yesterday.

Criminal proceedings against the culpable should be the next course of action.

Can't see that happening - against who? Murray was acquitted, and an application for retrial when Duckenfield got a hung jury was refused.

Hasn't McKenzie already apologised once? IIRC he did, but then some time later said he only did so cos he had to, and was "not sorry then, and not sorry now".

Apparently there are still several serving officers within the South Yorkshire force who were complicit in the doctoring of evidence.
Can we not start with them?

It wasn't the odd statement that was subtly changed, it was [size=200164[/sizepieces of evidence.

As per above – plus Irvine Patnick is still alive and should be stripped of his knighthood.

As for McKenzie – where's the apology from his bloody boss at the time? Nothing from the scumbag Murdoch yet. Although he's probably forgotten about it.

Hopefully it will also remind people about what Boris Johnson is like – and it's worth remembering that Margaret Thatcher was only interested in preserving the reputation of the police, and instructed that pieces of the report were altered to tone down or cut criticism of the force.

This was a class issue. As someone tweeted yesterday, can you imagine, if something similar had happened at Lord's, such smearing and lies, and taking 23 years to get to the truth?

Aye, he was a total sh!!t then, and a total sh!!t now.

Didn't Jimbob utter a half hearted apology recently at Leveson?



If the current Chief Constable is openly admitting that ''senior officers sought to change the record of events,'' then as he also states, ''if people acted criminally then they should face prosecuton.''

It was uncomfortable viewing watching him being interviewed on last evenings Newsnight.

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Class had nothng to do with it. This was all about how can certain guilty people tried to wash their hands of the death of 96 people, and blame anyone but themselves

he is and always will be the lowest of scum.
equally there are man utd and chelsea scum fans who post on rlfans(yes you know who you are )who spout the same rubbish and lies and filth as that scumbag.what new little ditties will the fans think of to sing in future now its been proven (what us LFC fans knew anyway) that LFC FANS DID NOT CAUSE HILLSBOROUGH!!

the truth is out.
now on to justice.

You need to get yourself a decent chair, all that slouching around will damage your back.
Might I suggest one of these? Thoroughly recommend it.

It's great news that all this cover-up has been revealed. You guys still only want the truth when it suits though. You'll carry on denying Heysel was your fault, fans rushing the turnstiles in Athens was UEFA's fault because too many tickets went to neutrals, and of course the Suarez incident (and the ridiculous t-shirts) were Evra's fault. This 'victory' over Hillsbrough is brilliant, but IMO it won't detract many neutrals from thinking that a large portion of LFC fans are just wan*ers.

Part of me REALLY hopes that next week during the Utd v Liverpool match that the camera flicks onto the LFC supporters and there's an image of an LFC fan doing the aeroplane gestures, just so we all still know about LFC's staggering hypocrisy

It was at least partly a class issue, like Mintball points out if this had happened at Lords there is no way on gods green earth that the police would have tried to smear the reputation of dead people by implying they were all drunk thugs, there would have been no completely fabricated stories released of drunk fans urinating on dying people and it was their fault that they died.
The cover-up was a continuation of the attack on the lower classes started by Thatcher.

Indeed sir, you are quite right.

Even more reason for buying one of those 'Thatcher's Dead' party packs

The problem with Hillsborough was it was just not safe in the way it was used in those days. The standing room at the end were the people were crushed was tiny compared with the large Kop at the other end. Nevertheless, it always seemed that supporters of teams from the NW of England were always put in that end for big matches (I believe due to the direction of incoming traffic and the wish for segregation). Such clubs tended to have much bigger travelling support than the opposition. It seemed that despite this they tried to cram a big number in a spabe designed for a fraction of that number. I say that because I was fearful myself some years earlier for an Everton v Aston Villa League Cup replay there. Such was the crush that not only could we not move our hands and hardly breathe but my steel watch actually got mangled as the crowd moved but arms could not be!

So, as well as the police (who presumably made the end allocation and refused to open the cage doors when people were pleading with them and dying in front of them - something which could be seen on TV even before the TV commentators realised what was happening), the FA must shoulder some of the blame for choosing the venue.

I'll take 4. Do we get a public holiday when it finally happens? You know, a bit like the Jubilee?

I thought the hypocrisy of the Labour party in parliament yesterday was staggering. Anyone who had a pair of eyes or had ever been to a big football match in those days could see the main issues. Despite the bereaved families' constant campaigning in all their years in government, what did Labour do for what used to be it's "class" (if as some suggest this was a class issue). Fair play to Cameron. I actually think the Tories will get some votes in Liverpool as a result of this (the city was the first Labour stronghold to lose faith in Labour previously).

Slightly off tangent here

The grounds safety certificate was 10 years out of date

Quite so. I skimmed through some of the report yesterday and it covers problems at a game at Hillsborough in 1981 (I think) that led to the ground not being used for semis again until 1987, then Leeds fans from that semi being squashed into Leppings Lane, then 1988 Liverpool/Forest, where fans were again crammed into Leppings Lane. Its a miracle that it didn't happen before 89, but the FA, Sheffield Wednesday and Sheffield Council have to take a chunk of the blame for the events of that day on the back of this evidence.

The Independent Panel was setup by a Labour government.
If anything this will simply remind people in Liverpool of what the right wing is like in this country.
In 2010 all Liverpool constituencies were won by Labour.

Exactly right

Here's one that Mr MacKenzie should make himself comfy in.