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An amusing tale about "PC gone mad", from Sweden.
Apparently train drivers, seemingly an all-male occupation there, used to wear shorts on hot summer days, but were banned from doing so immediately after Arriva took over the train company in January.
Then the drivers had the absolute masterstroke of saying, well then, we'll wear skirts. And they did. Checkmate. A no doubt chastened Arriva spokesperson was quoted as saying:
Quote "Our thinking is that one should look decent and proper when representing Arriva and the present uniforms do that. If the man only wants [to wear a skirt then that is OK," '"
Tellingly, he added:
Quote "To tell them to do something else would be discrimination."'"
Total capitulation, but still not the wit to add a uniform pair of shorts to the range! No doubt they think that would make them look foolish. Bravo the drivers.
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An amusing tale about "PC gone mad", from Sweden.
Apparently train drivers, seemingly an all-male occupation there, used to wear shorts on hot summer days, but were banned from doing so immediately after Arriva took over the train company in January.
Then the drivers had the absolute masterstroke of saying, well then, we'll wear skirts. And they did. Checkmate. A no doubt chastened Arriva spokesperson was quoted as saying:
Quote "Our thinking is that one should look decent and proper when representing Arriva and the present uniforms do that. If the man only wants [to wear a skirt then that is OK," '"
Tellingly, he added:
Quote "To tell them to do something else would be discrimination."'"
Total capitulation, but still not the wit to add a uniform pair of shorts to the range! No doubt they think that would make them look foolish. Bravo the drivers.
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I was expecting a thread about Scotland...
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On a broader note, why shouldn't men wear skirts? I often think they'd be cooler even than shorts on a particularly hot day. I like the idea, but don't want to be the first!
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| Has been the apparel of choice for most of history - the attire of great warriors to boot - the Romans, Scots, Greeks, Sikhs, Egyptians etc.
Trousers are a relatively new concept for the majority of civilisation, a garment worn by few cultures in antiquity and therefore should be regarded with deep suspicion.  |
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"An amusing tale about "PC gone mad", from Sweden ...'"
I read the report earlier.
The issue of the drivers wearing shorts appears only to have became an issue after the service was sold off to Arriva. So, this is a private company initiating something new – the sort of thing that you could imagine plenty of knee-jerkers over here assuming was public sector behaviour.
Anyway, good for them.
Oh – and WormInHand is completely correct about being the choice of warriors in many cultures. Many still wear them for ceremonial dress. |
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| Quote ="Mintball"
Oh – and WormInHand is completely correct about being the choice of warriors in many cultures. Many still wear them for ceremonial dress.'"
Although I have to say that the Greek one, at the risk of offending Greeks for they are very protective of their military dress code, does appear to be a bit too flamboyant for military use - I can understand and see where the kilt was derived from but I cannot for the life of me see a brigade of Greek warriors lining up in anything that looks even vaguely like their ceremonial uniform of today.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Has been the apparel of choice for most of history - the attire of great warriors to boot - the Romans, Scots, Greeks, Sikhs, Egyptians etc.
Trousers are a relatively new concept for the majority of civilisation, a garment worn by few cultures in antiquity and therefore should be regarded with deep suspicion.
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On the contrary, in the cooler climes such as the UK, skirts are nature's way of warning us about the wearer ... i.e. it's either a woman or an attention-seeker.
Anyway, if the Scots were such great warriors, how come they lost so often to trousered redcoats? |
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"
Anyway, if the Scots were such great warriors, how come they lost so often to trousered redcoats?
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Because you t0ssers had to support your German king! |
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Because you t0ssers had to support your German king!'"
And a minority of Scots stuck with the softcock Bonnie (s) Prince who escaped dressed as a woman (no irony lost there then) ... and lost to the trousered civilisation.
Putting any perceived rights and wrongs aside, the skirts still lost. |
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"And a minority of Scots stuck with the softcock Bonnie (s) Prince who escaped dressed as a woman (no irony lost there then) ... and lost to the trousered civilisation.
Putting any perceived rights and wrongs aside, the skirts still lost.'"
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"And a minority of Scots stuck with the softcock Bonnie (s) Prince who escaped dressed as a woman (no irony lost there then) ... and lost to the trousered civilisation.
Putting any perceived rights and wrongs aside, the skirts still lost.'"
I take it you're not on board with the whole skirts for men idea? |
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I take it you're not on board with the whole skirts for men idea?'"
I don't know how you worked it out but, yes, you're spot on.
Trousers are a sign of a slightly more advanced civilisation.
Don't even get me started about the arrant nonsense that is clan tartans or any of the vast array of bollox invented by Sir Walter Scott. |
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"I don't know how you worked it out but, yes, you're spot on.
Trousers are a sign of a slightly more advanced civilisation.
Don't even get me started about the arrant nonsense that is clan tartans or any of the vast array of bollox invented by Sir Walter Scott.'"
But don't you ever dream of wandering around on a scorching hot day with your junk dangling freely and serviced by a nice cooling breeze? |
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| Quote ="Rock God X"But don't you ever dream of wandering around on a scorching hot day with your junk dangling freely and serviced by a nice cooling breeze?'"
You don't need a skirt for that, you just need to be quicker than the police |
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Only ever donned the kilt attire at a couple of weddings.
Hung free and loose with no undercrackers on and it was a fairly pleasant experience.
Having said that I rarely wear undies or boxers with jeans or trousers to be honest.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"But don't you ever dream of wandering around on a scorching hot day with your junk dangling freely and serviced by a nice cooling breeze?'"
Can't say I have ever dreamed anything like that... although, when working from home, it has sometimes been p.m. before the dressing gown was discarded.
Trousers tend to be great UV protection and I have often seen sweaties on the tube wearing less fabric and (for some unknown reason) flipflops but who appear to be far less comfortable than I. |
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Can't say I have ever dreamed anything like that... although, when working from home, it has sometimes been p.m. before the dressing gown was discarded.
Trousers tend to be great UV protection and I have often seen sweaties on the tube wearing less fabric and (for some unknown reason) flipflops but who appear to be far less comfortable than I.'"
Yeah, but have you ever seen a Scot who looks truly comfortable? They're all too busy being angry and attempting to batter and deep fry stuff to really relax.
When I come to power, there will be skirts for all. Ballsacks up and down the land will ripple gratefully in the breeze, and never again will your scrotal skin adhere to your leg. |
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Can't say I have ever dreamed anything like that... although, when working from home, it has sometimes been p.m. before the dressing gown was discarded.
Trousers tend to be great UV protection and I have often seen sweaties on the tube wearing less fabric and (for some unknown reason) flipflops but who appear to be far less comfortable than I.'"
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Caledoniaphobia?'"
No, not at all.
Tartanophobia would be closer to the mark.
I reserve a special loathing for fake heritage. |
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Yeah, but have you ever seen a Scot who looks truly comfortable? They're all too busy being angry and attempting to batter and deep fry stuff to really relax.
When I come to power, there will be skirts for all. Ballsacks up and down the land will ripple gratefully in the breeze, and never again will your scrotal skin adhere to your leg.'"
You'll need to jail me then, I am a fan of scrotal support, preferably in nice fresh cool cotton.
Will you promise me you'll be honest and call your skirts "skirts" and not some euphemism or foreign word like "kilt"? |
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"You'll need to jail me then, I am a fan of scrotal support, preferably in nice fresh cool cotton.'"
Perhaps I'll make you appear in a televised ceremony where you must extol the virtues of skirt wearing (whilst appropriately attired, of course) or face deportation!
Quote Will you promise me you'll be honest and call your skirts "skirts" and not some euphemism or foreign word like "kilt"?'"
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Perhaps I'll make you appear in a televised ceremony where you must extol the virtues of skirt wearing (whilst appropriately attired, of course) or face deportation ...'"
Harsh, so harsh.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Perhaps I'll make you appear in a televised ceremony where you must extol the virtues of skirt wearing (whilst appropriately attired, of course) or face deportation!
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| Boys, boys you're all missing the point -ACCESSIBILITY.
Girls - would you rather run your hand up the thigh of the wearer of a sarong or that of a jean-clad fortress? Blokes - you know the answer to this. |
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Harsh, so harsh.
I'd have fingers crossed when I did it.'"
I'd insist that you utilise one of those foam thingies the ladies use when they're painting their toe nails. That'll put paid to any unauthorised finger crossing. |
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