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| Improvement or, same old, same old ?
Some of her Leadership campaign was awful but, for the sake of the country, let's just hope this was playing to the Tory faithful who were going to choose their leader.
The real job starts now and let's just hope that there is a serious plan to help those most in need with their energy bills this winter.
With energy prices rising so steeply, many businesses too will be closing their doors too, it's a HUGE problem.
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| And Lizard Liz didn’t even get a Majority of the Tory members
Only got 47%
And here’s what Lizard Liz thinks of British workers
[urlhttps://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1566761202495021056?cxt=HHwWgICjqefAoL4rAAAA[/url
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| Quote ="Superblue"And Lizard Liz didn’t even get a Majority of the Tory members
Only got 47%
And here’s what Lizard Liz thinks of British workers
[urlhttps://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1566761202495021056?cxt=HHwWgICjqefAoL4rAAAA[/url'"
IF she fundamentally believes the stuff spouted during the leadership campaign, both she and the British people are in for a very hard time.
Hopefully, those comments were intended for the 80,000 people who chose the PM and not for the other 70,000,000 in the country.
Both her and Sunak came out with some absolute bull**** but, some of those blue rinse voters seem to love it.
Let's see just what she is going to do before throwing her under the Brexit bus.
Mind you, she does seem to lack any conviction of principles, she's changed position on many of the important issues over recent years. Mind you, so did BJ.
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| Even Putin has said there is little hope of anything positive will come from this appointment.
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Even Putin has said there is little hope of anything positive will come from this appointment.'"
Well he should know being a man of reason
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| They’re going to freeze energy prices but they’ve no choice but to do that as the economy will collapse if they don’t. They always were going to do that but saved it up until after leadership contest to try and look good. The political thing is who pays for it. The small number of oil & gas companies who operate in an oligopoly, manipulating the market to ensure they profiteer off the back of human tragedy and unrest or the hard working public? She’s gone full Tory on that one.
I think they’re right in reversing the national insurance increase and looking to reduce taxes to increase investment right now as we need to get the economy moving. The blame for it being in such a state (downgraded to a developing nation economy) is due to 12 years of Tory mismanagement.
The worrying thing is the bonfire of peoples rights we’re about to see as the tories have lurched into fascism and likelihood that they’re about to kick start the troubles in Northern Ireland.
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| A lot is being made about Liz Truss being the third female PM and they’ve all come from the conservatives.
It’s welcome news that the new PM is female and there should have been more plus there should have been female Labour leaders. However, let’s not think this is good news for womens rights. Truss plans on giving tax breaks to married parents making it harder for single parents (predominately women) and making it harder for people to split up in abusive relationships (victims are predominantly women). Clearly that also infringes on mens rights but it’s mainly women that will be effected. She’s made a women who opposes abortion in cases of rape and incest health secretary.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"A lot is being made about Liz Truss being the third female PM and they’ve all come from the conservatives.
It’s welcome news that the new PM is female and there should have been more plus there should have been female Labour leaders. However, let’s not think this is good news for womens rights. Truss plans on giving tax breaks to married parents making it harder for single parents (predominately women) and making it harder for people to split up in abusive relationships (victims are predominantly women). Clearly that also infringes on mens rights but it’s mainly women that will be effected. She’s made a women who opposes abortion in cases of rape and incest health secretary.'"
It really is a depressingly extreme and low-ability cabinet isn't it. The Tory part has lurched dramatically to the right in the past 10 years - and Truss has only selected cabinet members who were loyal to her, i.e. those on the right of that already extreme bunch.
Fortunately most people know now that the "cutting red tape" they are after is lower regulations, lower customer protections, fewer workers rights. The opposite of where we are as a nation nowadays and it'll get seen through pretty quickly. It's yet more Tory gaslighting of course - because they are the ones behind the real great red tape imposition in the shape of Brexit, vast amounts of needless bureaucracy to import and export simply because of the ignorant insecurities of a rump of nationalists and the people they fooled into voting with them.
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| It's interesting that during the Brexit campaign, we were told soooo many times that there would be no reduction in standards and that workers' rights would be protected. However, the opposite seems to be true.
Our government seem to want out of the ECHR and Truss suggests that the Unions have too much power, suggesting that she wants to make some changes here as well.
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| Shes a Tory, so no change
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"A lot is being made about Liz Truss being the third female PM and they’ve all come from the conservatives.
It’s welcome news that the new PM is female and there should have been more plus there should have been female Labour leaders. However, let’s not think this is good news for womens rights. Truss plans on giving tax breaks to married parents making it harder for single parents (predominately women) and making it harder for people to split up in abusive relationships (victims are predominantly women). Clearly that also infringes on mens rights but it’s mainly women that will be effected. She’s made a women who opposes abortion in cases of rape and incest health secretary.'"
Fortunately abortion is a personal issue not a government directive - not a chance of change of the law here
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| Quote ="[Gareth"Shes a Tory, so no change'"
Well this week she is but before that she was a anti monarchy Liberal Democrat. I wonder how her plan to bring back fracking, coal and North Sea oil production will go down with the new King.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Well this week she is but before that she was a anti monarchy Liberal Democrat.'"
Quite a flip flop
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Well this week she is but before that she was a anti monarchy Liberal Democrat. I wonder how her plan to bring back fracking, coal and North Sea oil production will go down with the new King.'"
It's ok SP, there are 3 prime fracking sites in her constituency so, surely, it makes sense for these to go ahead before any others.
This will test her resolve and principles.
She already seems to be the puppet of the Tory right, just like BJ.
It should be an interesting first few months for her and with the current plan to help with energy bills not having been costed plus tax cuts, paid for by more borrowing, it's sure going to get interesting, especially if we slide into recession.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It's ok SP, there are 3 prime fracking sites in her constituency so, surely, it makes sense for these to go ahead before any others.
This will test her resolve and principles.
She already seems to be the puppet of the Tory right, just like BJ.
It should be an interesting first few months for her and with the current plan to help with energy bills not having been costed plus tax cuts, paid for by more borrowing, it's sure going to get interesting, especially if we slide into recession.'"
At least with Johnson you knew what he was all about, a lying self serving Tory, because he was born into it and always moved in those circles. Truss was brought up by two socialists, was a Lib Dem activist, was a republican and campaigned to remain in the EU. She's far more dangerous.
On the issue of fracking it's interesting that BP (who donated £100K of Truss' £420k campaign budget) remain sceptical of it's merits. However, the lobbying company they are involved in (Crown Associates) pretty much wrote Truss' energy plan and pushed heavily for the reintroduction of fracking licences. It'll be interesting to see which companies get fracking licences (or rather which companies' subsidiaries get licences).
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"At least with Johnson you knew what he was all about, a lying self serving Tory, because he was born into it and always moved in those circles. Truss was brought up by two socialists, was a Lib Dem activist, was a republican and campaigned to remain in the EU. She's far more dangerous.
On the issue of fracking it's interesting that BP (who donated £100K of Truss' £420k campaign budget) remain sceptical of it's merits. However, the lobbying company they are involved in (Crown Associates) pretty much wrote Truss' energy plan and pushed heavily for the reintroduction of fracking licences. It'll be interesting to see which companies get fracking licences (or rather which companies' subsidiaries get licences).'"
Did you just make that up ?
The £100k categorically wasn't donated by BP.
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| It was donated by the wife of a former BP executive.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It was donated by the wife of a former BP executive.'"
So just a complete untruth that was posted.
Why am i not surprised...........
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"So just a complete untruth that was posted.
Why am i not surprised...........'"
I didn’t post anything, I was just answering your question, the answer to which you probably knew.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I didn’t post anything, I was just answering your question, the answer to which you probably knew.'"
I didn't say you did, but seen as you had the courtesy to post a reply to my question, i thought it only courteous to reply ( with the statement).
To be clear - i wasn't accusing you of the untruth posted.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Did you just make that up ?
The £100k categorically wasn't donated by BP.'"
Did you just make that up ?
How do you know that BP didn’t provide the 100k quid to the BP blokes wife in the first place
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Did you just make that up ?
The £100k categorically wasn't donated by BP.'"
Ha ha ha ha yeah let’s focus on the important stuff like technically the biggest donation came from someone linked to BP and not BP themselves and not that their lobbying group got everything they asked for. Like their bills being guaranteed thanks to public borrowing, no windfall tax, increased oil and gas production in the North Sea and fracking. Here’s the lobbying group in question [urlhttps://registerofconsultantlobbyists.force.com/CLR_Public_Profile?id=0011o00001bhdEVAAY[/url . Liz truss being an ex employee of Shell and her strategy advisor being an ex partner of Hambury Strategy another lobbying group for employed by energy firms.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Ha ha ha ha yeah let’s focus on the important stuff like technically the biggest donation came from someone linked to BP and not BP themselves and not that their lobbying group got everything they asked for. Like their bills being guaranteed thanks to public borrowing, no windfall tax, increased oil and gas production in the North Sea and fracking. Here’s the lobbying group in question [urlhttps://registerofconsultantlobbyists.force.com/CLR_Public_Profile?id=0011o00001bhdEVAAY[/url . Liz truss being an ex employee of Shell and her strategy advisor being an ex partner of Hambury Strategy another lobbying group for employed by energy firms.'"
You keep adding to your quote - when a simple - "Yes i made it up" would suffice.
Out of interest, did you get your knickers in a twist with all the lobbying with BP and Tony in the late 90s ?What was it BP was dubbed Blair Petroleum?
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| Liz Truss declared the donation which means if anyone made it up it wasn’t me and Tony Blair hasn’t been the PM for 15 years so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make but it’s got shaft all relevance.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"You keep adding to your quote - when a simple - "Yes i made it up" would suffice.
Out of interest, did you get your knickers in a twist with all the lobbying with BP and Tony in the late 90s ?What was it BP was dubbed Blair Petroleum?'"
Wow that's some A grade whataboutery you've just tried to pull there
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