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| What the hell are the Government doing with this issue ?
It's either helpful for people to cover their faces, to help prevent the spread of Covid or it's not.
The "we trust the public" line is just crazy.
This needs to be an absolute instruction or not
It would appear that there is conflicting evidence so the government plan is "do what you want"
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"the government plan is "do what you want"'"
That's exactly the plan. The onus is on us. It always has been.
There has been so much conflicting evidence, though. Face coverings don't offer any protection. Wear a face covering if you want to. Don't wear a face covering. No need to wear a face covering. Face coverings are effective. Maybe wear a face covering while out shopping. Wear a face covering on public transport. Face coverings could become mandatory. Face coverings won't become mandatory. Face coverings should be left to the common sense of the individual. Face coverings could be made mandatory if people don’t wear them out of choice.
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| It’s like stay at home don’t go on public transport, now the economy (sandwich shops) needs people to go to work and use public transport. With the litany of errors right from the start you would hope by now they will have got their act together. I am of course not surprised with Johnson and this cabinet that it lurches from one disaster to another.
I can’t wait until they start Brexit because those that expect a streamlined operation are in for a shock.
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| The problem with selling face coverings to the masses is that it's an altruistic action not a self-preservation one. You wear one to stop yourself passing it on, rather than to prevent you catching it.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"The problem with selling face coverings to the masses is that it's an altruistic action not a self-preservation one. You wear one to stop yourself passing it on, rather than to prevent you catching it.'"
Maybe so but, but if people wearing them, helped everyone else avoid catching the virus it should be a no brainer and government should lead on this.
IF the evidence is there to show that wearing face coverings helps stop the spread, they should bloody well act and get off the fence.
Right now, they are just dithering and delaying, instead of leading.
We probably shouldn't be surprised but, yet again, it's amateur time in Downing Street.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Maybe so but, but if people wearing them, helped everyone else avoid catching the virus it should be a no brainer and government should lead on this.
IF the evidence is there to show that wearing face coverings helps stop the spread, they should bloody well act and get off the fence.
Right now, they are just dithering and delaying, instead of leading.
We probably shouldn't be surprised but, yet again, it's amateur time in Downing Street.'"
I largely agree. I suppose my point is that no matter how misty-eyed we get about just how wonderful we've all been during lockdown, the fact of the matter is we absolutely cannot be trusted to exercise discretion. We might do the right thing out of self-interest but probably not feel the same about protecting everyone else. I'm not a fan of the nanny-state by any means but Bournemouth, Soho and so many other things suggests that Britain needs to be told to do the right thing not asked. So I agree society is utterly incapable of being sensible without government diktat in my opinion.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Maybe so but, but if people wearing them, helped everyone else avoid catching the virus it should be a no brainer and government should lead on this.
IF the evidence is there to show that wearing face coverings helps stop the spread, they should bloody well act and get off the fence.
Right now, they are just dithering and delaying, instead of leading.
We probably shouldn't be surprised but, yet again, it's amateur time in Downing Street.'"
Y’all happy now - message now loud and clear, in a week and a halfs time
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| Up to £100 fines enforced by the police. Let's see who the rules really apply to...
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| Quote ="ColD"Y’all happy now - message now loud and clear, in a week and a halfs time
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Not till 24th July, which gives this lot plenty of time to change their mind.
The issue here is that IF face coverings are beneficial, then make the ruling. If not, then leave it to peoples own choice.
It really is that simple or, at least it should be.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Not till 24th July, which gives this lot plenty of time to change their mind.
The issue here is that IF face coverings are beneficial, then make the ruling. If not, then leave it to peoples own choice.
It really is that simple or, at least it should be.
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They have made the ruling haven’t they
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| Why the ten day wait? Are there not currently enough masks to go around?
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| He’s probably wants to check with Cummings to make sure he is doing the right thing.
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| Quote ="ColD"They have made the ruling haven’t they
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Yes, eventually but, they've, once again, mickeyed about until the last minute and you get a sense that there is not full agreement within the cabinet, hence the delay in getting a coherent plan.
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| Can’t believe the amount of idiots complaining about wearing masks - we have reached American levels of stupidity.
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| I wonder if Johnson’s promise of an independent inquiry into their handling of the pandemic will be the same as the one he promised to undertake regarding islamaphobia in the Conservative party I.e. not at all
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I wonder if Johnson’s promise of an independent inquiry into their handling of the pandemic will be the same as the one he promised to undertake regarding islamaphobia in the Conservative party I.e. not at all'"
He’s too busy making jokes when being asked about families being bereaved by coronavirus.
He’s gone beyond Thatcher now in being a c**t.
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| Quote ="Willzay"He’s too busy making jokes when being asked about families being bereaved by coronavirus.
He’s gone beyond Thatcher now in being a c**t.'"
I never thought anyone could- but you’re right, he has.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Can’t believe the amount of idiots complaining about wearing masks - we have reached American levels of stupidity.'"
I saw many Tories have cut up their membership cards as a result of the decision re face masks. Typical, selfish behaviour- only to be expected I suppose
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| Quote ="RfE"I saw many Tories have cut up their membership cards as a result of the decision re face masks. Typical, selfish behaviour- only to be expected I suppose'"
Of all the things they could have disowned the Tories for they go and choose having to wear a piece of cloth over their mouths and noses during a global pandemic.
Idiot's gonna idiot, I suppose.
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| It’s probably the same people who voted for Johnson because they thought he “would take back control”, well unless it’s Trump
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| I think the new powers awarded to the government to lock down whole areas by cutting them off, shutting amenities and stopping public transport. I guess those that wondered what a police state is like may get a chance to find out if their area falls fowl of the new laws.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I think the new powers awarded to the government to lock down whole areas by cutting them off, shutting amenities and stopping public transport. I guess those that wondered what a police state is like may get a chance to find out if their area falls fowl of the new laws.'"
If the chickens stick to the social distancing rules they should be fine,if not, they're clucked.
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| You had better hope that you do not live in an area that contains a factory or you may find yourself locked in with police road blocks
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| Social distancing could be over completely by christmas.
Fantastic news! Well done Boris
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"You had better hope that you do not live in an area that contains a factory or you may find yourself locked in with police road blocks'"
No poultry factories near me,but there is a KFC if that counts.
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