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| What has the world come to when people are bombing kids at a music concert!!
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| It's beyond vile. We're still safe in general, though. I'm certainly not going to lying awake at night worrying about these depraved people. I don't want to give them the satisfaction
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| Shocking stuff and to target young kids and families is horrendous.
Some aspects of the modern world truly awful and IF this is in the name of any religion, it's just sick.
It's time that ALL religious groups accepted each other's right to pray, worship or, not bother and their leaders need to start getting THIS message across.
THere is no place for this stuff in the name of ANY God or to justify ANY cause.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Shocking stuff and to target young kids and families is horrendous.
Some aspects of the modern world truly awful and IF this is in the name of any religion, it's just sick.
It's time that ALL religious groups accepted each other's right to pray, worship or, not bother and their leaders need to start getting THIS message across.
THere is no place for this stuff in the name of ANY God or to justify ANY cause.'"
I would argue that it's time for civilisation to leave *all* religion behind in the dark ages, where it belongs; it retards and denigrates us, and provides nutjobs, cranks and monsters of many stripes with a framework to commit whatever atrocity tickles their fancy.
Meanwhile, some kids went to a gig in Manchester last night - and won't go home; that's beyond horrific. Mine are due at the Courteeners/Charlatans gig there on Saturday - and as much as I want to say we should carry on and not let them win, I just can't.
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| people who hide behind religion to carry out these kinds of atrocities are S**M imo simple as that. It is not religion, it is simple brainwashed hatred and has no place in society, sadly we have allowed many of these non civilised backward thinking people to live amongst us in recent years and it is likely just the start.
All we can do is hope our government start getting serious about this and put something in place. sadly all i think we will get is the usual #prayformanchester, candle lit vigils etc... and carry on as usual.
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| The [iWar on Terror[/i is still going well I see.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"All we can do is hope our government start getting serious about this and put something in place. sadly all i think we will get is the usual #prayformanchester, candle lit vigils etc... and carry on as usual.'"
Yep, just had a look on twitter, it's like groundhog day. #prayfor....., the celebrity outpourings led this time by James Corden, the usual suspects stirring up hate (Katie Hopkins has been reported to the police, AGAIN!), political figures condemning the actions and a million and one memes and messages of defiance. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can remember your password, maybe you can take to social media.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"people who hide behind religion to carry out these kinds of atrocities are S**M imo simple as that. It is not religion, it is simple brainwashed hatred and has no place in society, sadly we have allowed many of these non civilised backward thinking people to live amongst us in recent years and it is likely just the start.
All we can do is hope our government start getting serious about this and put something in place. sadly all i think we will get is the usual #prayformanchester, candle lit vigils etc... and carry on as usual.'"
Any suggestions?
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"All we can do is hope our government start getting serious about this and put something in place. sadly all i think we will get is the usual #prayformanchester, candle lit vigils etc... and carry on as usual.'"
That would have to involve them not under funding the police though.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Any suggestions?'"
Plenty, but they probably wouldn't go down too well on here.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Plenty, but they probably wouldn't go down too well on here.'"
Yes - in the immediate aftermath of a terror attack, there is at least an opportunity for some overt racism, so every cloud and all that.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Yes - in the immediate aftermath of a terror attack, there is at least an opportunity for some overt racism, so every cloud and all that.'"
And..... the racist slurs are out, how predictable.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Plenty, but they probably wouldn't go down too well on here.'"
It's implicit or explicit from your post what you are talking about so why don't you come out & say it? I'm sure plenty of people would be interested in how we can stop these sorts of atrocities.
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| No thanks, i will keep the views to myself seeing as they mean nothing at all in the scheme of things and i'm not looking for, nor do i need a heated debate on the subject, particularly on here. I will put my trust in those that get paid very well to make these decisons as ATEOD there is very little else i can do sadly.
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| I'd get rid of all faith schools, and I'd get schools to actively teach atheism / agnosticism at least. Leave that religious guff to the mosques and Churches etc
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"No thanks, i will keep the views to myself seeing as they mean nothing at all in the scheme of things and i'm not looking for, nor do i need a heated debate on the subject, particularly on here. I will put my trust in those that get paid very well to make these decisons as ATEOD there is very little else i can do sadly.'"
That was a faster U-turn than Mrs May.
You've probably made the right choice though - I expect there are some EDL echo chambers where that stuff is going on in full effect; it's not likely to play so well on here though.
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| Quote ="bren2k"That was a faster U-turn than Mrs May.
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it would have been if i had actually given an opinion in the first place numb nuts.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"it is simple brainwashed hatred and has no place in society, sadly we have allowed many of these non civilised backward thinking people to live amongst us in recent years and it is likely just the start.'"
I think you made yourself perfectly clear. Numb nuts.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I think you made yourself perfectly clear. Numb nuts.'"
If you think that statement does not ring true you need to wake up and smell the coffee.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"If you think that statement does not ring true you need to wake up and smell the coffee.'"
I can tell you're wavering - you've got lots to say, but you know you'll get hammered for it.
Decisions decisions...
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| Quote ="bren2k"I can tell you're wavering - you've got lots to say, but you know you'll get hammered for it.
Decisions decisions...'"
No, No i really don't but i can tell you are frothing at the mouth in anticipation with your 'Racist' label gun set on on automatic.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"I'd get rid of all faith schools, and I'd get schools to actively teach atheism / agnosticism at least. Leave that religious guff to the mosques and Churches etc'"
This should certainly be done in state schools.
Although, Britain is supposed to be a Christian country and without that back drop, there would be questions raised about our holiday calendar: Easter, Christmas etc
Mind you, dropping all religion could be seen as a victory for the terrorists ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"This should certainly be done in state schools.
Although, Britain is supposed to be a Christian country and without that back drop, there would be questions raised about our holiday calendar: Easter, Christmas etc
Mind you, dropping all religion could be seen as a victory for the terrorists ?'"
They were pagan festivals before Christianity hijacked them any way, so there'd be no reason not to keep them
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"All we can do is hope our government start getting serious about this and put something in place. sadly all i think we will get is the usual #prayformanchester, candle lit vigils etc... and carry on as usual.'"
That last bit is getting more and more cringeworthy each terrorist attack that happens. What do people think it actually achieves....make them feel like they done something so they can feel ok in a couple of days when they start to move on and forget about what happened? Will that work the next time for them if it's one of their loved ones that dies in a terrorist attack. Been watching the news this afternoon and evening and so much of it's been spent focused on people patting themselves on the back for either sending a tweet of support or holding a vigil convincing themselves that that's going to beat terrorism. Terrorists must be laughing their s off at this way of responding.
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| People keep asking how we can stop this and the answer is you can't how can you defend yourself against somebody who's willing to blow themselves up
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