It's been mentioned that the Australian Foreign Minister Julia Bishop is cancelling the passports of dual citizens who have gone overseas to help the ISIS cause in Iraq and beyond. As Islam is a religion of peace and only a few bad apples give it a bad name. Would this thing be considered/has it been mentioned in the UK, where you can identify some of the radical islamists who are the "bad apples" for once? www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... 3aly1.html

It's been mentioned that the Australian Foreign Minister Julia Bishop is cancelling the passports of dual citizens who have gone overseas to help the ISIS cause in Iraq and beyond. As Islam is a religion of peace and only a few bad apples give it a bad name. Would this thing be considered/has it been mentioned in the UK, where you can identify some of the radical islamists who are the "bad apples" for once? www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... 3aly1.html

IF you can identify those who have definitely been fighting for an organisation classified as "Terrorist" by your government then its a fair call. What is apparent in the UK is that our security agencies are very keen on bandying around various numbers of suspected citizens who have gone abroad to become terrorists, numbers ranging from 300 to 2000 have been touted around in the press in recent weeks, yet they mention in the next breath that they can't be sure on the number, nor of who these suspects are.

Which sort of makes you wonder why they got the job at the "Homeland Security" interview in the first place.

Put Glen Hoddle in charge. Apparently he struggled last night to differentiate between Algeria and Al Jazeera. Should be fun with his interpretations of Al Quaeeda and Isis, just make sure if you do travel, you don't stay at an Ibis hotel

It was just political moves to try and garner support behind any action that may be taken against ISIS.
There is no coincidence that just when there might have to be action of some sort the PM comes out with a figure of all these "terrorists" that might come back to Britain to blow us all up.
See then any action is us defending ourselves.
And of course the spoon fed media in this country lapped it up without any critical questioning of the stats or the people wheeled out to relay them.

tbf the Arabic for the anglicised "Algeria" is actually al-Jazāʼir

It all strikes me as Cameron's version of 45 minutes. I didn't see the figures of how may people being bandied about, to be fair, but it seemed that we were being told to prepare for war on the streets of Britain (regardless of how that would actually happen) based on 2 blokes from Cardiff who were in a video.

I'd bet good money Hoddle didn't/doesn't know that.

On a related issue, what are the Oxford reserve Boat Race crew going to be called now?

Which still ain't quite Al Jazeera and are you seriously giving Hoddle the BoD?

Interesting that no one seems at all concerned about British (and other nationality) Jews serving and fighting in the Israeli Defence Force

Ramadan Mubarak

Why would anyone be 'concerned' about that?!

Send for the main man?
He'll get it sorted.

So you have no problem with British citizens fighting as foreign combatants in unlawfully held territories?

Says much about you and your double standards

No problem with them removing terrorist scum from the face of the earth.

Long live Israel.

One man's terrorist and all that....

"Terrorist scum" like this?

I wonder what is worse:

1. Targeted air strikes at designated terrorist targets with prior warnings which may have the unintended consequences of civilian casualties; or

2. Indiscriminately firing hundreds of rockets into civilian population centres with the intention to kill and maim civilians.

From Auschwitz to Sabra and Shatila.
Funny old game.

I have no problem with that at all. It's their life, they can do with it what they wish. If you believe strongly enough in a cause, go and live or die as you will. Whether I agree with the legality or indeed morality of their cause is another matter.

What I do have a big problem with is when those British citizens then go on record promising to bomb polling stations, of "wreaking havoc" in the UK, of the black flag of Islam flying over London, 9/11-style attacks and a "killing spree" of British citizens.

It would be easy to mock and dismiss these comments if those British citizens weren't already armed and engaging in beheadings, mass murder of POWs and civilians and other atrocities in the name of their 'Caliphate' - a word which sends a clear message in itself. A group so dangerous and depraved that Al-Qaeda disowned them and suddenly Iraq, Iran, Syria, the Kurds and the West find themselves on the same side.

Fact is, ISIS/ISIL/IS will be spanked back to the stone ages eventually so perhaps we won't need to worry about our renegade Brits for too much longer. Even if the Iraqis fail, Iran and Syria won't allow them to gain too much power and territory, and neither will the West.

1. Who designates the targets as terrorist targets?

2. The IRA gave prior warnings too, so in your book they're OK?

3. Define "indiscriminately"

4. Clarify how you know the person's intentions.

Whenever you're ready.....

WTF?

Launching rockets at civilian population centres is terrorism

Not defending this are you?

Not at all. Just asking some questions to clarify your view.

1. The IDF target the means by which the terrorists launch rockets.
2. Different scenario. The IRA was/is a terrorist organisation, the other a state trying to protect its civilians and avoid killing innocent civilians posted into harms way deliberately by Hamas.
3. A dictionary might assist you with this one. Not sure there is anything I can add?
4. Infer from conduct as is always the case.

They're both as bad as each other. And that's the problem.
Though there are peaceful, ordinary people on both sides stuck in the middle & Israel shouldn't receive as much support from other nations as it does.

As for the question about British people serving in the IDF, I'm not AS concerned about them as I am about those going to join ISIS/fight in Syria etc as the ones serving in the IDF are far, far less likely to come back to Britain and try to bomb people here.
I also believe there are plenty of British people going to Syria etc who have no intention of harming Britain or British people when they return. It's a very complicated situation. In a way a lot more complicated than the Israel/Palestine problem.

So basically an Israeli life is worth more than a Palestinian life then?

565 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli security forces since January 2009, while 28 Israeli civilians and 10 Israeli security personnel have been killed