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| As people couldn't discuss it properly before and with reference to Dally's post.
I have to say that as an expat I've seen photos of London from friends on facebook and it all looks wonderful.
Evoking happy memories of childhood and the Silver Jubilee in ’77, the street parties, all the things put on for us kids at the time and the whole sense of fun.
As an expat, me seeing this sense of pride back home is rather nice. After years of being told how you can act or think. It's actually refreshing to see people flying the flag with a sense of respect and pride.
It's not out of some out and out xenophobic nationalism as we're led to believe would always be the case from flag wavers.
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| I saw an advert on Sky news about the Jubilee and one of the lines was something like "60 years, what an achievement" I almost felt like putting my foot through the tele. I find the whole occasion a bit nauseating, I'd rather go to work if I'm honest.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"I saw an advert on Sky news about the Jubilee and one of the lines was something like "60 years, what an achievement" I almost felt like putting my foot through the tele. I find the whole occasion a bit nauseating, I'd rather go to work if I'm honest.'"
Ditto
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"I saw an advert on Sky news about the Jubilee and one of the lines was something like "60 years, what an achievement" I almost felt like putting my foot through the tele. I find the whole occasion a bit nauseating, I'd rather go to work if I'm honest.'"
I think the monarchy and all its trappings are out of place in 2012.
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| 'eart of the North is Jubilee
I will of course be celebrating this weekend, although I will be celebrating 60 years of [size=200 ME![/size (1952-2012)
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| Quote ="DaveO"I think the monarchy and all its trappings are out of place in 2012.'"
set up the guillotine in Trafalgar Square ad chop all their heads off !
Vive La Republique !!
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| Was doing my service to Queen and country back in 1977 on HMS Hermes,waving my cap round three times to Liz.It was a sight to behold with all the ships "dressed up ". Three cheers once again to her
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen" I find the whole occasion a bit nauseating, I'd rather go to work if I'm honest.'"
Same here. To the Tower with the lot of 'em, I say.
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| Just shows how out of touch so many are on here. The vast majority (80%) of the public love her majesty. The monarchy is currently at a high in popularity.
For Charlie, Jack, etc - here's an offer you can't refuse - come and work for us on the bank holiday (for free).
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| Quote ="Dally"Just shows how out of touch so many are on here. The vast majority (80%) of the public love her majesty. The monarchy is currently at a high in popularity.
For Charlie, Jack, etc - here's an offer you can't refuse - come and work for us on the bank holiday (for free).'"
agreed about Her Majesty but 80% of her subjects don't want all the hangers on...
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| Quote ="Dally"Just shows how out of touch so many are on here. The vast majority (80%) of the public love her majesty. The monarchy is currently at a high in popularity.'"
The fact that a particular view is popular does not make that particular view correct. I would personally prefer to live in a republic and I am not going to change my opinion for the simple reason that I'm in the minority.
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| I've mixed feelings, the country wouldn't anywhere near as important as it is without having such a hugely famous monarchy, nor would London be such a tourist trap because of them, you only have to walk down Pall Mall or go to Windsor to see the amount of people passing through all year round, and whilst there are many buildings that would still be there even without them people wouldnt come in the droves they do.
The next part is the Queen, I do like her, she does put the work in and always has, she doesn't make gaffs, doesn't belittle people and you can't take away her commitment to the country.
Apart from William, I can't really think of another royal I actually come close to liking.
As for the Royal Family in 2012, it's antiquated, but i'd like to see the figures on what the The royal family costs us compared to what they bring in to the country in money, if it's pretty equal which I would guess it is, then really, whats the point in losing it. If its a massive burden then let them go.
I certainly can't answer the question.
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| Quote ="Dally"Just shows how out of touch so many are on here. The vast majority (80%) of the public love her majesty. The monarchy is currently at a high in popularity.
For Charlie, Jack, etc - here's an offer you can't refuse - come and work for us on the bank holiday (for free).'"
Where do you get 80% from? I, nor anyone I know, has ever been surveyed as to our feelings of the Royal family. Just another load of media hype that has swayed the sheep-like public.
As for attracting tourism, ballacks. People come to London, just as they go to Berlin, Paris, Madrid, Moscow or any other major city for the entertaintainment, culture, history and architecture, nothing whatsoever to do with Royalty.
I will gladly work all weekend. Hope it pours down on the sheep who will spend hours stood on a street just to watch her car go bye.
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| Quote ="Live Wired"Where do you get 80% from? .'"
At a guess, I'd say it was a survey in the Dally Wail. They were going to repeat it in the Morning Star but thought better of it
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| Getting rid of the monarchy is a red herring, there are far more urgent matters to deal with like ridding the second chamber of hereditary peers and bishops.
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The above link shows that 80% of brits polled would favour a monarchy in a referendum. It would however be an incredible leap to infer that because 80% prefer a monarchy that 80% of brits "love the queen" as Dally stated in his post.
I also have no idea if polls from other organisations show similar results or not.
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The above link shows that 80% of brits polled would favour a monarchy in a referendum. It would however be an incredible leap to infer that because 80% prefer a monarchy that 80% of brits "love the queen" as Dally stated in his post.
I also have no idea if polls from other organisations show similar results or not.
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| I'm surprised people still take notice of opinion polls.
Taking the monarchy, 80% of Chipping Norton proberley would keep them, whereas, 80% of Toxteth proberley would'nt.
Anyway, time to root out a certain Smiths LP
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| Quote ="Sadfish"I've mixed feelings, the country wouldn't anywhere near as important as it is without having such a hugely famous monarchy, nor would London be such a tourist trap because of them, you only have to walk down Pall Mall or go to Windsor to see the amount of people passing through all year round, and whilst there are many buildings that would still be there even without them people wouldnt come in the droves they do.'"
I'm far from sure the tourist trap argument is true. As Mark Steel once said, "Do people get to the top of the Eiffel Tower and say 'Well, it's a lovely view but the lack of a functioning monarchy spoils it for me.'?"
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| vast amounts of americans dont really go to paris or berlin in the same numbers as come to London, as i've said though i've no idea of the ratio.
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| Quote ="Live Wired"
Taking the monarchy, 80% of Chipping Norton proberley would keep them, whereas, 80% of Toxteth proberley would'nt.
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I'd guess it'd be more likely be the other way round (proberley).
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If Tatchell can wind you and all the other Dally Wail readers up, he's welcome to stay as long as he likes for mine.
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| I see no reason to celebrate a 60 year reign by a monarch who doesn't have a clue of the hardships of the people of this country and still gets paid by the taxpayer. They are nothing like us. It must be nice for them to look down upon us and not have to want for nothing ever. The sooner the monarchy is abolished the better as it has no place in the 21st Century.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"I see no reason to celebrate a 60 year reign by a monarch who doesn't have a clue of the hardships of the people of this country and still gets paid by the taxpayer. ...'"
Why would you conclude she has no clue? I'd bet a lot she is very clued up.
And the point about her still being paid by the taxpayer is surely inverted logic; she's 86 and yet still doing a full-time job, faultlessly, without complaint. And no doubt won't stop until either her health fails or she pops her clogs.
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| Why exactly would it be better if we were a republic? What would be better?
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