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| [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8939276/Mercy-for-the-drunk-Muslim-girl-gang-who-attacked-woman.html"Kill the white slag"[/url
Could someone shine a light on M'Learned Friend's opinion as to why this isn't a racist attack?
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| Come on, admit it, whose put something in the water?
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| Because if you are white you can't be the victim of any sort of racism or discrimination whatsoever
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| The judge is an out of touch fool.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"The judge is an out of touch fool.'"
And such a short report won't give the full facts either
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8939276/Mercy-for-the-drunk-Muslim-girl-gang-who-attacked-woman.html"Kill the white slag"[/url
Could someone shine a light on M'Learned Friend's opinion as to why this isn't a racist attack?'"
Are you fu*king kidding me? After the uproar last week about the racist white idiot on the tube in London... hahaha, what a joke
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| So what we're saying is that any one of us can beat up a black man, shouting "Kill the black b@@tard" and get away with it?
No, thought not.
Those girls must feel like they've won the lottery. Anyone else would have gone down for that.
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| Crazy. 4 onto 1 and they don't get jailed??? Hopefully they'll be deported but I'm not holding my breath.
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8939276/Mercy-for-the-drunk-Muslim-girl-gang-who-attacked-woman.html"Kill the white slag"[/url
Could someone shine a light on M'Learned Friend's opinion as to why this isn't a racist attack?'"
Who is stating that it isn't ?
The relevant facts are all contained in that report including the reason why the judge didn't apply a jail sentence, the culprits were convicted and were given a sentence with a full explanation.
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"Crazy. 4 onto 1 and they don't get jailed??? Hopefully they'll be deported but I'm not holding my breath.'"
watched the cctv footage earlier and it was 4 on 2 - the victim's boyfriend was with her and got in some decent retaliation, as well as missing and falling over a couple of times. He was either hammered of concussed, I assume. Very odd attack/fight - they all just stop and have a rest at one point. The boyfriend picks some tactically naive moments to switch between protecting and comforting the victim, as well.
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"Hopefully they'll be deported but I'm not holding my breath.'"
Where would they be deported to?
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"Who is stating that it isn't ?
The relevant facts are all contained in that report including the reason why the judge didn't apply a jail sentence, the culprits were convicted and were given a sentence with a full explanation.'"
Once again alcohol is used (wrongly) as a mitigating factor not and aggravating one.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"Who is stating that it isn't ?
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According to the report, the judge accepted that it wasn't racially motivated.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Once again alcohol is used (wrongly) as a mitigating factor not and aggravating one.'"
Though, conversely, Allah is going to be well pi[iss[/ied off.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"According to the report, the judge accepted that it wasn't racially motivated.'"
Then he, having heard ALL of the evidence must be believed.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Where would they be deported to?'"
Report says they are Somalians, so I'd presume Somalia.
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| If I could read a report with all the relevant facts in it, I'd express an opinion.
As it stands, I can't.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"Then he, having heard ALL of the evidence must be believed.'"
That's an odd one. Do judges never make mistakes? I'm not saying that the attack [iwas[/i racially motivated, and I accept that the judge had access to a lot more information than you or I, but to say the judge [imust[/i be believed is just wrong. Perhaps if he had stated explicitly why he thought it wasn't (maybe he did and it wasn't reported), we could be a bit more confident either way.
Oh, and, I was only answering your question as to who said the attack wasn't racially motivated.
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| Out of curiosity, what [iwas[/i the reason for the attack?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Out of curiosity, what [iwas[/i the reason for the attack?'"
They were offended by Christmas.
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| Quote ="Cronus"They were offended by Christmas.'"
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"If I could read a report with all the relevant facts in it, I'd express an opinion.
As it stands, I can't.'"
Well quite.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"That's an odd one. Do judges never make mistakes? I'm not saying that the attack [iwas[/i racially motivated, and I accept that the judge had access to a lot more information than you or I, but to say the judge [imust[/i be believed is just wrong. Perhaps if he had stated explicitly why he thought it wasn't (maybe he did and it wasn't reported), we could be a bit more confident either way.'"
There wasn't enough room in the Telegraph report for details, what with the indignation that needs to be put in too.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"That's an odd one. Do judges never make mistakes? I'm not saying that the attack [iwas[/i racially motivated, and I accept that the judge had access to a lot more information than you or I, but to say the judge [imust[/i be believed is just wrong. Perhaps if he had stated explicitly why he thought it wasn't (maybe he did and it wasn't reported), we could be a bit more confident either way.
Oh, and, I was only answering your question as to who said the attack wasn't racially motivated.'"
The judge[i must[/i be believed because thats all we have, he/she has heard [iall[/i of the evidence, will certainly have years worth of experience in the law (decades worth probably), and is appointed as worthy to judge such things.
If he/she has made a mistake then there is also a procedure to re-judge what he/she has done or said and reach the same, or a different conclusion, nothing that they state is set in stone - its the system that we have and generally speaking its a bloody good one.
I certainly wouldn't hand over the justice system to newspaper editors.
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"Report says they are Somalians, so I'd presume Somalia.'"
I think you need to have a look at the UN's convention on refugees.
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