Quote ="Big Graeme"As is the majority of kosher meat.'" I have no idea about that and was simply going on the piece I watched. It did seem unequivocal and the definition I read of shechita (www.shechitauk.org/faq.html) insisted that there is no pre-stunning whatsoever allowed but if you are an expert in it then I'll take your word for it.

Quote ="Big Graeme"As is the majority of kosher meat.'" I have no idea about that and was simply going on the piece I watched. It did seem unequivocal and the definition I read of shechita (www.shechitauk.org/faq.html) insisted that there is no pre-stunning whatsoever allowed but if you are an expert in it then I'll take your word for it.

I thought that halal meat was taken from animals that were not stunned.

I listened to a long discussion on R4 about it and it seems there is a higher majority of Kosher meat that is not stunned than Halal which seemed to be fairly high.

The argument from a Jewish chap they had on was that chickens are killed by being dipped in electrocuted solution and non Jews and Muslims eat pigs, so there. Oh and you're being anti-Semitic.

If your religious beliefs say it's okay to maim babies by circumcision, what chance is it that these same religious beliefs are going to include painful ritual slaughter in the perpetration of food?

I'd say it would be fairly high.

They're all crackpots and shouldn't be given the time of day in any discussions concerning animal welfare.

As someone who was maimed as a baby by one of these religions i couldnt agree more.