Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"This shows where the casings and radio were. dugganinquest.independent.gov.uk ... e_pg12.pdf'" Sorry that you seem to be doing all my work for me LGJM but how was casing one in the road. The other bits look to be in logical places. Am I wrong in thinking that V53 fired both shots?

Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"This shows where the casings and radio were. dugganinquest.independent.gov.uk ... e_pg12.pdf'" Sorry that you seem to be doing all my work for me LGJM but how was casing one in the road. The other bits look to be in logical places. Am I wrong in thinking that V53 fired both shots?

I have no idea how the shell casing ended up in the road.

V53 fired both shots. He was the only person to fire his weapon.

About the location of the shell casing. There's a still from the police helicopter that has an ambulance parked up in almost exactly that spot. So it was possibly transferred to there somehow by the paramedic. dugganinquest.independent.gov.uk ... e_p19G.pdf

About the location of the shell casing. There's a still from the police helicopter that has an ambulance parked up in almost exactly that spot. So it was possibly transferred to there somehow by the paramedic. dugganinquest.independent.gov.uk ... e_p19G.pdf

Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"About the location of the shell casing. There's a still from the police helicopter that has an ambulance parked up in almost exactly that spot. So it was possibly transferred to there somehow by the paramedic. dugganinquest.independent.gov.uk/docs/ Jury_Bundle_p19G.pdf'" Thanks for your efforts, it's much appreciated. Don't know about you but I would love to have been involved in the process of actually asking these pertinent questions in court. I think FA would be very good at it.

Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"About the location of the shell casing. There's a still from the police helicopter that has an ambulance parked up in almost exactly that spot. So it was possibly transferred to there somehow by the paramedic. dugganinquest.independent.gov.uk/docs/ Jury_Bundle_p19G.pdf'" Thanks for your efforts, it's much appreciated. Don't know about you but I would love to have been involved in the process of actually asking these pertinent questions in court. I think FA would be very good at it.

TBH I'm actually glad that I have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with any part of things like this. I think that the police drown under the paperwork, but IMO the paperwork does exonerate them a great deal.

I get the impression that the police were accused of making up the crossfire just to justify shooting him. But reading the notes it is clear that the cops didn't actually know what had gone down. The cop who did shoot Duggan didn't even know how many times he'd shot and the other cop whose radio got hit didn't seem to have a clue who had hit him.

I have found out that one of Duggan's phones was left inside the cab, along with a phone of the cabbie and the cabbie's PDA. But that still leaves Duggan's second phone, which could be important.

I do call BS on the witness who reckons he saw Duggan holding a phone from 150ft though. 20/20 vision my ar5e.