|
 |
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 3378 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2023 | Jul 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Hosepipe bans affecting about 20 million customers have been introduced by seven water authorities in parts of southern and eastern England.
People who flout the bans, which follow one of the driest two-year periods on record, face fines of up to £1,000.'"
How do these water authorities gain the power to impose a legal ban, that can lead to a fine?
Do they have to first apply to the courts to implement this ban?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 778 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2014 | May 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Mrs Hfuhruhurr will be very disapointed.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 16136 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2023 | Mar 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Its a provision in the Water Industry Act (Section 76), that basicly says what Water compaines can and can not do.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 16274 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| The solution is simple just make everybody have metered water so you pay for the water you consume. That way rather than the nanny state telling you what you can and can't do it's up to the individual to make the decision of whether to use a hosepipe and then pay the extra costs.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 26578 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2017 | Apr 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"The solution is simple just make everybody have metered water so you pay for the water you consume. That way rather than the nanny state telling you what you can and can't do it's up to the individual to make the decision of whether to use a hosepipe and then pay the extra costs.'"
Doesn't work when there are shortages.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 16274 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Big Graeme="Big Graeme"Doesn't work when there are shortages.'"
Then you just increase the price. If necessary make it high enough that the revenue gained from people using hosepipes will pay for desalination plants and pipes to bring in water from the ocean.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 32466 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Then you just increase the price. If necessary make it high enough that the revenue gained from people using hosepipes will pay for desalination plants and pipes to bring in water from the ocean.'"
Double whammy - using sea water to spray onto gardens will also reduce the ocean levels at a time when they are supposed to be rising = we all win.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 5392 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 1970 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| re-nationalise the water industry, why should a basic neccessity of life turn massive profits for companies/individuals?
The sad fact is the water companies have had 20+ years to get their s into gear over the monumental leakages and still they haven't put a dent in them despite more tax payers money to fund much of the repairs/new pipes. To have the audacity to say don't use water is a kick in the face though I do believe everyone should be on a meter so it is a fairer system all round & puts some onus on people to think about how they use water so it can benefit not just financially but from an enviromental POV also.
I actually had to pay for my meter when I bought my house some 16 years ago & it's saved me quite a few thousand pounds in the interim. I even managed to save money for my nan in her bungalow and now all her friends have one fitted too.
This is the one out of all the industries that got de-nationalised that has irked me
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Administrator | 25122 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2017 | May 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Isaiah="Isaiah"How do these water authorities gain the power to impose a legal ban, that can lead to a fine?
Do they have to first apply to the courts to implement this ban?'"
It's called - the global water shortage crisis.
Right now we're on the cusp of a battle (at a time when seemingly all governments have bought into the notion that they have to hand everything over to the private sector) over who is going to control water and how are we going to deal with this coming water shortage. On the one hand you have a bunch of very large transnationals, the World Bank, the WTO, EU etc. who say give it to the private sector - it's going to become real expensive real soon so let it find its proper market value (which also takes into account 15 to 20 percent return on your investment) and let it go to what's known as "full cost pricing" where you pay for every litre at full cost. On the other side of the fight is a small group of people who say there has to be another way.
Unfortunately the power lies with the money and if the money says enforce hose pipe bans the government is only too pleased to write the legislature.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Administrator | 25122 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2017 | May 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"re-nationalise the water industry'"
You really need to familiarise yourself with the terms and conditions of the WTO and the EU. After all, your government(s) agreed to it.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Administrator | 25122 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2017 | May 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| As an aside, there was a recent report in the US which stated that the Ogallala aquifer, the word's largest body of standing free water, has dropped from an average depth of 240 feet to just 80 feet. Bear in mind that this aquifer is almost as long as the Rockies stretching from close to the Canadian border down to Texas. It is the sole reason the American Midwest has, for close to a century, been regarded as the World's "Breadbasket".
The US Department of Agriculture estimates this region has little more than sixty years of agricultural viability before it becomes a [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/8359076/US-farmers-fear-the-return-of-the-Dust-Bowl.htmldustbowl.[/url.
Consider the Colorado river which now no longer reaches the ocean.
It is estimated that a cotton T-shirt takes 400 gallons of water to produce. Denim jeans 1,800 gallons. A car takes 39,000 gallons. A board of timber takes 5.4 gallons. A barrel of beer requires 1,500 gallons. One ton of steel needs 62,000 gallons.
Remember that ALL of this water is lost to the freshwater cycle.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 32466 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"
It is estimated that a cotton T-shirt takes 400 gallons of water to produce. Denim jeans 1,800 gallons. A car takes 39,000 gallons. A board of timber takes 5.4 gallons. A barrel of beer requires 1,500 gallons. One ton of steel needs 62,000 gallons.
Remember that ALL of this water is lost to the freshwater cycle.'"
There is no reason why many production techniques cannot recycle and re-use much of the water they use other than its currently cheaper to use fresh supply - if you are washing denim or cotton during the production cycle then it wouldn't take too much imagination to just not throw that water down the drain and pay for someone else to treat it further down the drainage - just filter it yourself and re-use it, similarly you could argue that beer production which has water as 90-something percent of its final product, is recycled further down the drainage channel, they aren't really good examples of water being lost for good.
Mintball also linked to a newspaper report on Facebook this weekend where Thames Water have turned off all of the ornamental fountains in central London until the Olympics in the name of "saving water". I'd love to know how badly you'd have to design an ornamental fountain so that the water didn't fall back into the pool and get re-pumped back to the fountain again, its almost impossible to imagine how badly you'd have to design an ornamental fountain so that it needed a constant supply of new water and all of the used water just ran away into the drains and was lost.
|
|
|
 |
|