Another example of our sick society: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hefts.html

Another example of our sick society: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hefts.html

I agree.

Constantly linking to Dally Wail articles is a clear indication of just how low some in our society have sunk

Them and The Sun are usually first nationals to put stories on the web. I boycott all things Murdoch, where I am aware of the link. So, not much choice.

ONE example of ONE person that works in a charity shop .

There are thousands of people across the country that work voluntarily in charity shops .

Would you please contribute some more to this thread by giving us examples of the great things that the rest of the charity shop volunteers do ?
Why are items that make the headlines always so negative ? The world would be so much better a place if people could occasionally focus on the positives . A headline such as ' Traumatised ex-soldier gives 16 hours a week to work unpaid in an Oxfam shop' .

Rant over .

I was just citing it as one more example of the moral decline of this nation. I am sure even you have noted many others these last few years.

What evidence do you have for a moral decline? I don't know about you but I see far more acts of kindness and sacrifice day to day than I do that could characterise a "moral decline".

Oh and as the Leveson Inquiry has proved we can't trust newspapers so sensationalist bullshiiit scaremongering Daily Mail articles don't count as evidence.

This one is scraping the dregs out . I know a few lads that came back from places such as Bosnia that are still suffering from what they saw there . People that used to be the life and soul of the party and seemed to be so carefree you would think nothing could unnerve them . Now those same lads have reached their midlife and are haunted by what they saw . They are , and have been since their return , receiving treatment to help them deal with life outside the military . After hearing stories such as one lad pulled a screaming kid out of a smoke-filled building only to find when he got outside into the daylight it was not much more than half a screaming kid I can kinda understand why they are so traumatised by their times spent in such places .
One of the things they have in common is that they are all 'unemployable' due to their conditions . Another is that they all help out in charity shops . It is a step on the way to recovery . The charity shops give a lot back to folk such as these lads , recovering alcoholics , and others that have 'gone astray' . They give them a chance .

It's about time we had some happy news . You got any happy news Dally ?

It's only posh people that are depraved.
The rest of us are merely deprived.

Quote Him="Him"What evidence do you have for a moral decline? I don't know about you but I see far more acts of kindness and sacrifice day to day than I do that could characterise a "moral decline". Oh and as the Leveson Inquiry has proved we can't trust newspapers so sensationalist bullshiiit scaremongering Daily Mail articles don't count as evidence.'" You must be young if you think that. In my lifetime the decline has been dramatic and to be honest it is no longer the country I was brought up in on so many levels. For those 30 odd years older than me it must be awful. You ought to read this book: www.amazon.co.uk/Strange-Death-M ... 1412806224 (Which for a lover of 'evidence' like you is based throughout on the British government's own statistics). (Cue the usual suspects dissing the author, just like the Tories used to mock Scargill).

Quote Him="Him"What evidence do you have for a moral decline? I don't know about you but I see far more acts of kindness and sacrifice day to day than I do that could characterise a "moral decline". Oh and as the Leveson Inquiry has proved we can't trust newspapers so sensationalist bullshiiit scaremongering Daily Mail articles don't count as evidence.'" You must be young if you think that. In my lifetime the decline has been dramatic and to be honest it is no longer the country I was brought up in on so many levels. For those 30 odd years older than me it must be awful. You ought to read this book: www.amazon.co.uk/Strange-Death-M ... 1412806224 (Which for a lover of 'evidence' like you is based throughout on the British government's own statistics). (Cue the usual suspects dissing the author, just like the Tories used to mock Scargill).

I couldn't possibly comment regarding moral decline . My moral standard is way below what I would be expect everyone elses to be . If morals decline to my standards then I will be a happy man , but I DON'T doubt that there would be a lot of unhappy fathers and husbands out there

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Quote Dally="Dally"You must be young if you think that. In my lifetime the decline has been dramatic and to be honest it is no longer the country I was brought up in on so many levels. For those 30 odd years older than me it must be awful. You ought to read this book: www.amazon.co.uk/Strange-Death-M ... 1412806224 (Which for a lover of 'evidence' like you is based throughout on the British government's own statistics). (Cue the usual suspects dissing the author, just like the Tories used to mock Scargill).'" In what way has it been dramatic? What is dramatically worse than it was 30 years ago when taking into account technological/demographic changes etc Were drastically fewer people being killed? Drastically fewer people abused? Drastically fewer crimes? I have no intention of buying and reading such a book, since you obviously have read it what statistics does it use to account for a moral decline? How is it measured? How have the methods of recording those statistics changed over decades? Does it take into account population and other changes? Again, I will ask for evidence of such a shocking moral decline in this country.

Quote Dally="Dally"You must be young if you think that. In my lifetime the decline has been dramatic and to be honest it is no longer the country I was brought up in on so many levels. For those 30 odd years older than me it must be awful. You ought to read this book: www.amazon.co.uk/Strange-Death-M ... 1412806224 (Which for a lover of 'evidence' like you is based throughout on the British government's own statistics). (Cue the usual suspects dissing the author, just like the Tories used to mock Scargill).'" In what way has it been dramatic? What is dramatically worse than it was 30 years ago when taking into account technological/demographic changes etc Were drastically fewer people being killed? Drastically fewer people abused? Drastically fewer crimes? I have no intention of buying and reading such a book, since you obviously have read it what statistics does it use to account for a moral decline? How is it measured? How have the methods of recording those statistics changed over decades? Does it take into account population and other changes? Again, I will ask for evidence of such a shocking moral decline in this country.

Quote Dally="Dally"You must be young if you think that. In my lifetime the decline has been dramatic and to be honest it is no longer the country I was brought up in on so many levels. For those 30 odd years older than me it must be awful. You ought to read this book: www.amazon.co.uk/Strange-Death-M ... 1412806224 (Which for a lover of 'evidence' like you is based throughout on the British government's own statistics). (Cue the usual suspects dissing the author, just like the Tories used to mock Scargill).'" Just how old are you?

Quote Dally="Dally"You must be young if you think that. In my lifetime the decline has been dramatic and to be honest it is no longer the country I was brought up in on so many levels. For those 30 odd years older than me it must be awful. You ought to read this book: www.amazon.co.uk/Strange-Death-M ... 1412806224 (Which for a lover of 'evidence' like you is based throughout on the British government's own statistics). (Cue the usual suspects dissing the author, just like the Tories used to mock Scargill).'" Just how old are you?