Apparantly according to my NRL friends the West Tigers play the most 'off the cuff' Rugby in the NRL and hopefully Royce will bring that back to Saints.

Players confirmed leaving from this years 34 man squad....

Bryn Hargreaves - Bradford Bulls
Jake Emmitt - Castleford Tigers
Nick Fozzard - Castleford Tigers
Matty Smith - Salford City Reds
Jack Bradbury - Blackpool Scorpions
Maurie Faasavalu - Harlequins R.U.
Matt Gidley - Retired
Keiron Cunningham - Retired

Players i believe are leaving....

Ade Gardner - Salford City Reds
Chris Dean - Released
Andy Yates - Released
Tom Armstrong - Released

I make that 12 First team members leaving our squad for next year.

Players Moving in.....

Josh Perry - Manly Sea Eagles
Michael Shenton - Castleford Tigers
Louie Mccarthy Scarsbrook - Harlequins R.L
Tommy Makinson - Promoted
Carl Forster - Promoted
Nathan Ashe - Promoted
Scott Hale - Promoted

So thats 7 players moving into our squad.

1. Paul Wellens
2. Jamie Foster
3. Michael Shenton
4. Gary Wheeler
5. Francis Meli
6. Leon Pryce
7. Karl Eastmond
8. Josh Perry
9. James Roby
10. James Graham
11. Sia Soliola
12. Jon Wilkin
13. Chris Flannery
14. Scott Moore
15. Paul Clough
16. Tony Puletua
17. Louie Mccarthy Scarsbrook
18. Jonny Lomax
19. Andrew Dixon
20. Matty Ashurst
21. Sean Magennis
22. Lee Gaskell
23. Gareth Frodsham
24. Tommy Makinson
25. Carl Forster
26. Nathan Ashe
27. Paul Johnson

Very Strong team imo. I can see Makinson taking a starting spot on the wing and Carl Forster getting plenty of game time from the bench. We will be top 4 imo.

i think jonny lomax would be in the team ahead of wheeler, lomax has played outstanding all season i wouldnt be suprised if he gets a 1-5 number he deserves one he was the stand out player for me on the saints team in the grand final he looked like he was the only person who wanted it along with roby and wellens

It is almost like we have revolving doors at the club at the moment. Given the list of names we have leaving, then there surely must be cap space for further signings, especially if the "Ade" rumours are true. This view is strengthened when you consider that Longy left last year and the only one to come in was Soliola.

I'm a little dissapointed that tom Armstrong has been released, given how much his try scoring form has shot up this year. I guess there must be some big holes in his game that we haven't seen in his limited first team appearences, although he always seemed pretty solid.

It's a good team, but not much strength in depth, another injury ravaged season and we'll be in trouble

Chris Dean to Wakefield.

he has done well to get a SL contract IMO.

He's had three offers from Superleague Clubs.

Armstrong has signed for us for another season www.saintsrlfc.com/news/2865

Armstrong has signed for us for another season www.saintsrlfc.com/news/2865

The only loss out of those that are going is Emmitt, who I would have liked to seen stay to see how he develops. The rest are neither here nor there.

The big thing for me with Simmons coming on is improving our defence and hopefully he can add some of his playing nous to Roby and Moore.

Quote gateaux="gateaux"Armstrong has signed for us for another season www.saintsrlfc.com/news/2865'" Good, although he needs to be going out on loan, preferably to a SL club to test his real metal. Reserve grade is too easy for him, if you note his try scoring. Quote gateaux="McClennan"The big thing for me with Simmons coming on is improving our defence and hopefully he can add some of his playing nous to Roby and Moore.'" With him being a former hooker, I'm hopeful he can do that.

Quote gateaux="gateaux"Armstrong has signed for us for another season www.saintsrlfc.com/news/2865'" Good, although he needs to be going out on loan, preferably to a SL club to test his real metal. Reserve grade is too easy for him, if you note his try scoring. Quote gateaux="McClennan"The big thing for me with Simmons coming on is improving our defence and hopefully he can add some of his playing nous to Roby and Moore.'" With him being a former hooker, I'm hopeful he can do that.

Your sources are doing you a terrible disservice. Everytime you say something, Saints post an announcement contradicting it. For example your releasing of Armstrong when in fact he has signed a new deal.